tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post5972664896098223864..comments2023-09-24T12:47:57.051+01:00Comments on Unzipped: Armenian government ‘affords’ $ 1 100 000 for celebrationsartmikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11207317653711435445noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post-23735353511626226252008-05-20T13:17:00.000+01:002008-05-20T13:17:00.000+01:00To Nazarian,The transfer of power from the Republi...To Nazarian,<BR/><BR/>The transfer of power from the Republic to Bolsheviks took place on December 2-3 of 1920. Check your facts. (Mher)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post-17319422034876386312008-05-16T17:59:00.000+01:002008-05-16T17:59:00.000+01:00thanks I will.thanks I will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post-79801800670916104842008-05-16T04:14:00.000+01:002008-05-16T04:14:00.000+01:00Grigor - I am not a historian, but check Christoph...Grigor - I am not a historian, but check Christopher Walker or Robert Fisk or maybe Toynbee.<BR/><BR/>Also Hovannisian's books on the Republic of Armenia must have references to many other texts that are relevant here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post-30560618312769400802008-05-15T22:17:00.000+01:002008-05-15T22:17:00.000+01:00reflective, the point isn't that the battle is qui...reflective, the point isn't that the battle is quite well documented, the point is that when you are challenged you have to argue and when you are challenged in the way that you cannot use your own history then you will have to look elsewhere. Now, I know my own history, but I cannot find a word about the battle in Western records. The question was simply if anyone knows any non-Armenian account of the events. <BR/><BR/>I have to disagree, if Turkey has records indicating that such a battle took place then it will definitely confirm the fact that they actually lost the battle. So the whole point is that we just need one non-Armenian source of confirmation that the battle took place not that we won or lost as just the mere existence of such a document implies that we won it given the rest of the history which in fact is well documented by foreign scholars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post-54515788240480128372008-05-15T21:03:00.000+01:002008-05-15T21:03:00.000+01:00I also don't think that Turks are the most credibl...I also don't think that Turks are the most credible party to say whether Sardarapat Battle took place or not...<BR/><BR/>Looks like Wikipedia refers to the First Republic as 'Democratic Republic of Armenia' while the scan of the passport issued by that government says 'Republic of Armenia'.<BR/><BR/>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/DRAPassport.jpg<BR/><BR/>One strange thing in the scan of that passport: it's issued on December 18, 1920, about three months after Republic of Armenia ceased to exist.Ankakh_Hayastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05325640735361093139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post-1916080848482247082008-05-15T20:15:00.000+01:002008-05-15T20:15:00.000+01:00C'mon Grigor. I think the battle is quite well do...C'mon Grigor. I think the battle is quite well documented. If we start referring to Turkish historiography of the Armenian nation, we may soon discover that our own grandparents didn't exist!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post-28333323419383564872008-05-15T19:28:00.000+01:002008-05-15T19:28:00.000+01:00nazarian, beat me to it. I agree with nazarian and...nazarian, beat me to it. I agree with nazarian and with you as well. That is way to much money for a celebration like that. By the way sine you brought it up I think some western accounts do not acknowledge the battle of sardarapat saying that it was an invention by Armenians and I think I even read radical comments suggesting that it never happened. For instance, look at<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Battle_of_Sardarapat<BR/><BR/>the comments at the very end are disturbing. Does Turkey have records of this battle or perhaps Russians?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post-24498815384102713802008-05-15T18:38:00.000+01:002008-05-15T18:38:00.000+01:00It's like Rome. They had events like the gladiator...It's like Rome. They had events like the gladiator matches to keep the citizens distracted from the woes facing the country. It seems to have worked for them for what now seems a long time.Ankakh_Hayastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05325640735361093139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post-4433820201323634022008-05-15T12:21:00.000+01:002008-05-15T12:21:00.000+01:00I'm surprised they couldn't afford more money... l...I'm surprised they couldn't afford more money... like $3 millions, of which more than half could easily go into the pocket of the "organizer" -- whoever that is.<BR/><BR/>But what do I know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4331396433182434044.post-42216326538027439692008-05-15T11:57:00.000+01:002008-05-15T11:57:00.000+01:00I for one think it is a great idea. I think promo...I for one think it is a great idea. I think promotion of the events which shaped (or saved?) our national identity should be encouraged. God knows there are enough wastes of resources without any visible benefit that happen all the time. I think this celebration of unified patriotism is not one of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com